E-mails & Letters 2003
Safa Scott
What Up Doc (Douglas)!
Remember me! Its Safa, Just checked out the OC Web site. Glad to see you on the lifetime member list. Still living in the USA. I'll stop in as soon as I get down there - don't know when that will be.
My Gramps just died, Mom moved to Hobart, and my grandmother is selling her house. I'll still make it to Adelaide though. If it's during the off-season i'll leave a note on the door.
The Wallabies caning the All Blacks was grand, after South Africa's dismal performance. Is Stewart playing Division 1 or on the Falcons? Is anyone that I knew playing for the Falcons?
Tell anyone you think might remember me including Jaime Perkins, that I'm still alive.
Thanks
Also was wondering if there was anyway I could by a buy new or nice looking OC jersey with a 9 or 11 on it.
Safa
Roger McDaniel
Hi Paul
As you will note from the above there has been a change in address (fortunes?) for the McDaniel clan. Leonie and I have just shifted to Melbourne after 4 years in the wilderness of Jakarta .
New contact addresses as follows:
roger.mcdaniel@bnpparibas.com.au
LeonieMcDaniel2@hotmail.com
By the way, am hoping, after all these years, to get to Adelaide in the next couple of weeks. Has OC's got anything planned for the World Cup final?
Regards and hope to meet up with you soon.
Regards
Roger
More David Watson
G'day Aussies (and Irish),
So, the sledging of Roman has begun before the game has even taken place (thanks for the e-mails those who sent them!!!)
For once I'm not being stupidly optimistic about the match as we have been absolutely terrible this whole World Cup. However, we are always are better as underdogs and the fact that no-one in the World rates us and that the Aussies are expecting to just turn up and win should give us some incentive.
On the subject of the ridiculous Australian media (is it just the media??), I reckon they match only the English in terms of arrogance. I guess that's because you are descended from them...for two countries who are suppossed to hate each other you've got a lot in common! Campese is every bit as much of a twat as Carling. (Of course if it comes down to Australia - England in the final I will only be supporting one team - if England win I am going to move to a cave in the Tora Bora mountains as it will be unbearable here).
Anyway, just to let you know to expect a call at the clubhouse should Scotland pull off the greatest upset in the history of sport. In fact expect a call even if we just put up a good show, a la Ireland. If not...forget it!
Speak to you all Saturday night then....
Roman
COME ON SCOTLAND!!!!
GET IN TAE THESE DIRTY CRIMS!!!
(PS - OK sorry for comparing you with the English, that was a step too far,
no-one deserves that level of slander...)
Emma Suttell
Hi all,
Just letting you know that I have resigned from Imagination Entertainment in the UK ... final day is 31/10/03 ... I have set up a temporary email address for now - being
emmasuttell@yahoo.co.uk
Ben Hamer
Friday, 31 October 2003 1:31 AM
Hi all
Things have been kicking along quite well. I am working as a delivery driver for one of the guys at the rugby club. The work is slow, more like I don't do any, but the pay is good. Living with my South African counterpart is going well, he is a complete tea-totaller, but we still find ourselves in the kebab shop in the early hours on Sunday mornings, living with a guy that doesn't drink at all works out well on Sundays when memory lost comes into play, there's always Kenny to back me up.
Rugby is going well, we won our last game 35 to 15, the team has some good players but some brain dead fuckos as well. The comp is very different to home, but not as strong, kind of like playing teams like Woodville every game.
The social side to the club is a screamer. The boys know how to drink, with such little hours of daylight during winter, the only place to keep warm and discuss the past days is in the pub over a few and a few more and a few more. Luckily I live above the pub, which makes the stumble home a little easier. My bro came down for the weekend a few weeks back, just in time for the clubs annual pub crawl. The Hamer boys showed those Scots how to do it. Life doesn't seem to stop as two days after my brother left we were invaded by 6 South Africans looking for asylum in our living room. Paying their week's rent in beer I can't really tell you much about them or their names but they made sure they had a good time and took us along for the ride. I've been trying to settle down lately, save a bit of money for when Dan comes over. I'm off to Leeds this weekend to visit my brother and return the favour by messing up his place and sleeping on his couch.
That's about me up to now so stay strong, and sleep long
Ben
Paul Horne <paul.horne@e-access.com.au> wrote:
So, Ben, tell me what you've been doing in Scotland. What's Roman's club like? What are the women like? I hear they have hairy underarms and legs up north of Edinburgh & Glasgow. And they're all short? Tell us all.
Paul
Paul,
I haven't found many of the hairy women yet but I'll try to get some photos for you...just jokes.
The women are fairly attractive on the whole but they are short and I think the chicken in the United Kingdom has a bit to much oestrogen in it as all the girls have big arses and breasts.
The club has a good look to it, two ovals with lush grass, but no cricket pitch. The bar is open most nights. The boys are trying to find out how much the new Australian can drink before he can't remember what happened the night before.
They say the grass is always greener on the other side and I've found out why... It's always raining over here.
It's starting to get a little cold but they are telling me that's nothing of what's to come. Not looking forward to it.
I've been working for a guy doing gardening which finished up today but I am starting a full time job on Monday as a delivery driver/ storeman.
Rugby is going well, kind of a backward step from Australian rugby but it's all good fun. Off to Edinburgh on Saturday to play.
All I can think of for now but will keep in touch.
... Ben
Friday 17th October 2003
A MESSAGE FROM BEN HAMER
Ben is playing in Scotland and was not at Presentation Night to receive his (various) awards. He has, though, sent this message through to us all: Thanks for the awards. I didn't expect to be saying this let alone saying it from abroad. I wish that I could have been there to accept the awards, but more importantly to drink the celebrations that go with winning. Things in Scotland are going well, scored two tries in my first match and received my first yellow card ever in my life in the second for a late hit. I think that the club is impressed with me. Have a good one.
... Ben Hamer
From the Tregenza Times, October 2003
Roger Clay
Sir,
My name is Dave Nice. I live in South Carolina, in the United States. I am looking for an old college friend by the name of Roger Clay. I attended Ohio State University with him in the early 1970's.
Roger would have acquired his Doctorate in Genetics around 1972 at Ohio State.
I see the name Roger Clay on your records and since Roger was an avid rugby player I thought perhaps you might know something about him. If so, he could contact me throughpnice@lowcountry.com
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Dave Nice
Tuesday 7th October
Received the contact details you obtained and e-mailed him. Waiting to hear back from him to find out if it is the same Roger Clay. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into this. Much appreciated! Will let you know the outcome if and when we hear from him. Thanks again.
Dave
Steve Kerrigan
Steve,
It was great to meet you last night - it's always fun to run into an ex-Old Collegian when you least expect to! As promised (I'm a woman of my word), I'm emailing you the websites for the club and the women's team, so that you can catch up on the last 30 years of news.
www.oldcollegiansrugby.org.au - browse about it, there's a wealth of history and gossip there
www.thefrocs.com - a much more clumsy, but browse around it and you may find photos of Imogen at the top of a line out ...
I'm also forwarding this email to our registrar, Richard Waddicor, who will add you to the database so you get newsletters and updates (next one due out in a matter of days). I'm also forwarding this email to our webmaster (Paul Horne) who is an amateur historian and loves finding ex-OCs and grilling them about the days of yore ...
(Paul, Richard - please say hello to our new/old friend Steve Kerrigan, CEO of Goyder Regional Council, and client of Norman Waterhouse. More importantly, Steve and his Dad were members back in the early 70s. Steve made some bold comments last night about wanting to come up to the club and reacquaint himself with Tregenza. Those comments may well have been made with the bravado of acohol - but I intend to hold him to them anyway!)
Cheers,
Kim Evans
Ben Allgrove
In message <1064806612.3f77a8d47247f@trollied.e-access.com.au> paul.horne@e-access.com.au writes:
Any coaching updates, Ben? Any academic updates?
Paul
G'Day Paul,
I have just started the season with Oxford Brookes University RFC. We had pre-season camp last week with over 30 returning players in attendance and I am running trials for new students tonight, with over 110 signed up to trial! Overall we have 4 men's teams and 1 woman's team, which I coach, along with three other coaches, look after. Should be a good season, with a relatively strong skill base, although we are lacking in the front row arena, which will make life tough, especially against arch-rivals Oxford.
On the academic front, I have finished my first course (Bachelor of Civil Laws - a masters course that has nothing to do with civil law actually, but that's Oxford for you!) and have started a Master of Philosophy in Law, looking at the legal implications of artificial intelligence technology. The BCL went surprisingly well. I topped the course, which was not expected, but obviously very satisfying.
All else is well. I followed the results from Old Cols on the net and was particularly impressed by the photos of Ms Collegians night!
Trust you are well.
All the best
Ben
Chris Gow
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Gow [mailTo:gow@symbiosis-travel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2003 2:37 PM
To: Kim Evans |
Subject: Re: Finals Program
Great to be back in touch with Old Collegians. I played 4th grade back in 1989 (final against Casino). I now live in Cambodia.
I would love to be able to trace some old mates - how can I find a list of those still playing/affiliated with the club?
A few I would like to catch up with - if you have any news of them...
Johnnie Marchant
Dave Pyper
James Bradshaw
Peter Forde
Hamish (?) - coach to 4ths at the time
Other names will come to me!
Much appreciate your help.
CHRIS GOW
Good to hear from any Old Collegians, particularly the far flung ones. I'm copying this email to Paul Horne, our webmaster, who gets very excited by this type of thing.
If you browse over the website (www.oldcollegiansrugby.org.au) you'll find all sorts of information you're probably interested in.
I assume the Hamish you are looking for is Hamish Cranna, and he is most definitely still around and as much of a reprobate as ever. You can get him on hamish@varietysa.asn.au
Peter Forde only stopped playing very recently, and moved up to Darwin. You may find a reference to him newsletters from earlier this year (May or June?), which is when he left. I don't have an email address for him, but someone else may. While Fordey is missed, we were glad to see the back of Java, his big black labrador. Java would come out to training and divide his time between his three favourite pasttimes of tripping up backs, pissing on gear and humping the tackle pads.
I don't recognise the other names you mentioned, but I am a relative newcomer to the club - Paul maybe able to help you.
Cheers Kim
David "Roman Watson
An email from David "Roman" Watson, last year's Ms College 2002.
September 2003
Please allow me to express my utter disgust with everyone involved in the organising of the recent Ms College competition. There I was saving up my pennies so that I could return to defend my title in 2004 - practising my catwalk every day, waxing my legs on a regular basis - and you go and have it a year early! Well, I am pouting like a b*tch right now let me tell you.
Meanwhile I am over here on the other side of the World helping Old Collegians in every way I can - like taking Ben Hamer off your hands - you should be paying us for removing that hair-brained hooligan from your books (oh how I cringed thinking of his aeroplane story as I stood in front of management insisting that he would be an excellent ambassador for the club and our benefactors who are bringing him over...).
Anyway, just needed to get that off my chest. Good grief, just think what else I could have gotten off my chest if given the chance.
Cattily yours, Roman.
Collegians do communicate
Thursday August 7th - Emma Curran e-mails thesaddam-wallaby joke. The banter was cc'd in to a smallish group of people
Now, now Ems ... I would have expected a higher degree of sportsmanship (sportspeopleship??!!!) here ...
Oh what am I saying - Love ya anyway, Emsxxxx
(Emma Suttell)
Em!!! I am a blonde kiwi of Irish decent- when i find a joke that works in my favour i'm going to bloody run with it!!!!
Love you too Pumpkin!! xx
(Emma Curran)
Why don't you two finish this off in a ring filled with Jelly? ... Craig Lancaster
piss off Craig(Emma Curran)
Clever comeback Emma! How long did it take for you to think that one up? I am in total awe of your expansive vocabulary..... Craig Lancaster
It's nice to see u guys are still getting on so well still, the jelly does sound good though!!!!
Craig, is "expansive" your big word for the day? ... Geoff
Good grief ... what started as innocent banter just got ugly!!! How a rugby related joke turned into two girls 'having it out' in a ring full of jelly is hysterically beyond me ... Thank you for giving me a fun start to my day!
Ems.xx
(Emma Suttell)
Emma Curran keeps touching me in my naughty areas..........
Craig Lancaster
Awwww, bless! ... Ems
(Emma Suttell)
Ben Allgrove - July 2003
Dear Friends,
Just a short email to let you know that I am coming home to Oz for a few days over Christmas.
Unfortunately, due to commitments on this side of the world it is literally for a FEW days, however, I would still love to catch up with as many of you as possible.
I arrive in Adelaide on the morning of Tuesday, 16 Dec. I fly out at midday on Monday, 22 Dec to Coffs Harbour, where I will spending Christmas, flying back to London on 31 Dec.
For those in Adelaide, I am basically free for breakfast, morning tea, lunch, afternoon teas, dinner and drinks (and everything in between) every day. I will probably organise drinks or something that weekend, but will let you know closer to the date.
Unfortunately, I am not going to have time to visit Sydney and Melbourne on this trip. If any one is on the NSW coast over Christmas, let me know and we can hopefully organise to catch up there some place. Or else, you could just come to Oxford and we can catch up there!
Finally, when my computer was stolen, I lost many of my email addresses. Please feel free to forward this on to anyone who you think may want to know.
Cheers,
Ben
--
Ben Allgrove
Magdalen College
Oxford OX1 4AU
United Kingdom
(M) 07986725893
(E) allgrove@mac.com
(E) benjamin.allgrove@magd.ox.ac.uk
(W) http://homepage.mac.com/allgrove
Emma Suttell
Hi Paul,
I've just taken a virtual tour de OC's website this evening and I'd be lying if I didn't tell you that I've had the best laugh ... reading all the 'highlights' of various social events with the accompanying photos has given me the best night's entertainment - not too difficult to top, as tonight's TV lineup has consisted of Eastenders, Forever Young (crap old film with Mel Gibson) and other unmentionables!
Jon (Collins, that is) and I thought we'd drop you a quick note to say that we are both fine, happy and settled (for now) in Swindon, Wiltshire. Jon's working as Branch Manager for a US-based company called Labour Ready and I am, as always, ensconsed in a nonsensical company called Imagination! Both happy, healthy - well, despite a rather nasty hangover on Sunday (I had one too many consolation drinks after the Wallaby loss on Saturday) ...
I spoke to Gavin Pfister on the mobile last week - he lives about 40 minutes up the road (M4) from us so we are trying to plan a bit of a weekend sometime soon. Jon's about to head into training (in about two weeks) also.
Anyway - I just want to say that ... I think Emma Curran is proving a righteous success in her role as Social Secretary (I think she should be upgraded to Social Goddess!) ... and that the constant updates are giving me and Jon nothing but joy!
Righto - EAT, DRINK, PLAY RUGBY!!!
Love and hugs - Em.xxx
Emma Suttell
Marketing & Licensing Coordinator
Imagination Entertainment
41 Barnum Court
Swindon, Wiltshire SN2 2AP
United Kingdom
Ph: +44 (0)1793 526 143
Fax: +44 (0)1793 617 704
Mobile: +44 (0)7977 117 264
E-Mail:emma.suttell@imagination.com.au
Emma,
Good to hear from you. I gave your mobile number to Roman the other week so he should have contacted you by now.
I used to travel through Swindon around 1992 when I was working in Bristol & in Cardiff - lived in Dorney then, between Eton & Maidenhead. I can't say I was ever tempted to get out at Swindon.
People here will enjoy hearing from you - any other news you have don't forget to pass on.
If you're ever near Oxford look up Ben Allgrove - details on the website.
Paul
I know what you mean about Swindon - it's not the ideal place to live, however, 'cause of Jon's placement (they opened up about 12 offices throughout the Southwest) he was pipped for Swindon. We only took out a six month lease on our flat (which is due to run out in November) and have already decided to potentially move out further to Oxford (as it is quite close) ... there are a lot of gorgeous little villages rambling through the hills and dales between Swindon (your classic London overspill town) to Oxford - so we're hoping to get 'out of the rat race', as it were.
Did see Ben's details - so we'll definitely get in contact. Haven't heard from Roman, but not to worry. Just in casey, my mobile is +44 7977 117 264 - Jon's is +44 7977 117 261 for anybody who wants it. We speak fairly regularly to Boof and Chezza - and I tend to speak to Nicole Quodling and Emma Curran regularly also - so it's always a lovely catch up!
Anyway - just want to know that we'll keep in touch - Jon said last night that we should regularly pop onto the OC's website to see all of the goings on - we're thinking about coming out at the end of the year for a few weeks also - just an idea, mind - but potential is there!
Righto then ... will keep in touch. Give everybody our love - 'specially Harry, Hamish, Merlin, Murray, Meara, Ray, Barb Finn and the rest - as well as all of those players (most of whom are in the Croc's now, I understand!!).
Love, Em. (and Jon!)
Emma Curran
Due to censorship, and for want of better descriptive words to put across my point, I am mighty pissed off. It has been bought to my attention that there are certain individuals within the club that are sneaking their own alcohol into the clubrooms on a Saturday night. Now for the intelligent folk out there I don't need to explain what the repercussions of this are ... but for the selfish fools that feel this may be a good idea let me rattle off a couple of reasons why this is a problem.
Firstly it is in breach of our liquor license and if caught we stand to not only lose our license, but cop a whopping great fine which the club would not be able to pay....this brings me to point number two. THE BAR IS WHAT KEEPS THIS CLUB AFLOAT! I believe I have said this before, but will say it again, winning on the field is not solely going to keep this club alive- its how we support it off the field as well that is going to determine its success.
Therefore, if you bring alcohol to the clubrooms, you are effectively stealing from the club and ultimately from your friends. I take this very personally when I am prepared to give MY own time and effort to try and ensure this success occurs, and when a few people are deliberately setting out to ruin this for others - well it just goes directly against the spirit of being an Old Collegian.
So for these people, this is to STOP NOW - you are doing nothing for the club and this kind of support is not welcome. Step up to the plate if you wish to do something positive for your club, or quite frankly don't bother stepping inside the door.
If anyone wishes to speak to me directly regarding this you know where to find me ... at the bar, putting my money where my mouth is.
... Emma Curran.
Quoting Alison Rosser:
I forwarded thewebpage you mounted on Ray to his Rotary counsellor in the USA (1983-4) Dr. Joel Lang who has remained a dear friend over many years. I thought you might be interested in his comments:
"I checked out the web site about Ray and the Rugby world he thrived in. It really brought a lump to my throat. I can still remember seeing him for the first time and being interviewed by national TV the first 5 minutes after his arrival in Washington, DC. I told him that I have lived in the US all my life and have never been interviewed on TV. Like you, I have very fond memories of the time Ray spent with us and was impressed with his intelligence, his varied background and his commitment to his profession. I remember so well, his playing of the piccolo in the kitchen. This huge man with strong hands & fingers and a full beard. It was incongruous. The instrument virtually disappeared in his beard and his hands. Yet the music was sweet and precise. I remember moving into . . . and out of the house on Adelphi Road. I remember our trip to Harpers Ferry and the mountain top hotel. When I looked at the pictures of him on the web page, particularly the one on the left as a clean shaven young athlete, I could see how women would fall all over themselves. He left us way too soon.
This honor to have a trophy named after him is one I know that he would have been proud of. It is fitting that it was the thing he loved so much.
How many times he tried to explain the rules and the terminology of the game to me, but I never quite got it. It's an American thing. Our football is very different. If I tried to explain those rules to you, you would need years to understand them and at least 3 supreme court judges to make some of the calls. ."
I hope your search for other rugby greats is going well
With kind regards
Alison
Ben Allgrove
G'Day Paul,
How goes it? In the middle of exams over here and hating it, but finish next Monday, so there is some light at the end of the tunnel.
A bit of rugby news for you. I have just been appointed 1st XV coach for Oxford Brookes University over here. Club has three mens teams and one woman's team and I am coordinating all three, with four other coaches. I'm really looking forward to the challenge, although I don't know that they quite know what they have got themselves in for! Pre-season starts in September, so will have to get to work at planning a season after I finish exams. I have also been reappointed as coach of the Oxford University Colleges' XV. I coached them last year to their first victory over Cambridge in 6 years, so I think they were pretty happy with me.
Back to the books. Cheers, Ben --
Ben Allgrove Magdalen College Oxford OX1 4AU United Kingdom
(T) 0870 120 0870 ext 25706 (M) 07986725893 (E) allgrove@mac.com (E)benjamin.allgrove@magd.ox.ac.uk
Hamish Cranna
I am trying to contact the above he used to play for Eccles RFU in
Manchester and I met him on the 2001 Lions tour do you have an e-mail
address for him?
Thanks and Regards
Joe Vincent
Colloides Naturels (UK) LTD. , The Triangle Business Centre, Exchange
Square, Manchester M 3 4 TR
Hamish Cranna
To: paul.horne@e-access.com.au
From:hamish@savariety.asn.au
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:10:02 +0700
Hello there c*%& *u&*@!
Just a little note to say that in your Contacts section on the website you have John Brady as the Team Manager. This is WRONG. It is I, The Exalted One, The Chosen One and man of many parts (not all of them working). I have been all season and you would have known that had you watched any of our games, but why would you, we are the only Old Collegian side to sit on top of our division. Do not bother apologising as it would lack sincerity. Just get it RIGHT.
Brother Cranna
To:hamish@savariety.asn.au
From: paul.horne@e-access.com.au
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:20:20 +0700
Hamish,
I've waited all this season to see which of you dead-brain morons ever actually bothered to look in the website. As it seems you are the first, or the first to care who is the Manager, I will give you full credit for getting there mid-season, but as you do have a chequered, but exalted, background in IT then I would have expected something sooner rather than later.
I could think of nothing more appealing than to watch our 3rds especially as the overall speed of play is now sufficiently slow that even I can follow what's happening out there. However, had any of you half-wits ever bothered to ask, I am reluctantly spending what inadequate spare time I have painting my over-valued pile in order to sell to an ever-eager buying public in order, amongst other more pressing financial concerns, to buy some form of non-public transport with which I can get out to ever more windy and desolate places in the sticks of this bizarre part of godzown country to watch rugby.
So don't rattle my cage anymore than you *&*^ing-well dare.
Paul
To: paul.horne@e-access.com.au
From:hamish@savariety.asn.au
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:40:02 +0700
Loved the message. Had a good laugh.
Is it that time of the month for you ????? Have you had a bad hair day ????
Look forward to seeing you on Thursday so we can carry on the abuse face to face
.. Hamish
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:45:17 +0930
From: Hamish <hamish@varietysa.asn.au>
Reply- To: Hamish <hamish@varietysa.asn.au>
Subject: Re: 3rd XV Coach
To:paul.horne@e-access.com.au
Dear Bird-Brain,
Let me thank you for amending the records regarding the 3rdXV Manager but, in checking the website to make sure that you are on the ball, I also noticed that you had Murray Curran down as the Coach. Incorrect !!!!!!
The coach is Oliver Porter. Murray's title is God, The Supreme One and the Man with the Golden Arm.
Do you think that if I keep checking your errors there is a chance you might get it right before the season's end is upon us.
I look forward to hearing your pathetic excuses tonight at the Bar.
-----Original Message-----
From: Horne, Paul (DHS)
Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 16:42
To:'hamish@varietysa.asn.au'
Subject: RE: Re: 3rd XV Coach
It's annoying enough that I have to put up with morons whining at work let alone from the cess-pits of self-righteous indignation such as yourself.
Not content with making a spectacle of yourself on television with your smugness and self-contentment you choose to waste your working hours cruising around in my hallowed cyberspace looking for something to add to your litany of whinging. Had any of you puerile intellectual-disasters ever thought that despite my having the IQ of a small planet I am not possessed of the ability to do the masterful artistry I have in all things for more than an allotted twenty four hours in a day which despite the illogical system, no doubt developed by your low-class saxon ancestors, of non-decimal time, defies my futile attempts to fit more in to it than that.
And if there were a God, and as much as I admire Murray I do believe you failed to listen carefully in whatever desperate Sunday School in whatever dreary town you were consigned to, he would have quite sensibly removed whatever marginal abilities you have remaining and in pity transferred them to whatever tree-hugging frog-kisser was suggesting that Scotland be given an Assembly.
Roger McDaniel
----- Original Message -----
From: paul.horne@e-access.com.au - 07/07/2003 04:36 PM
To: Roger McDaniel
Subject: Re: Video
Roger, I noticed in some club Minutes of 1982 or 1983 that you had a video of the grand final for that year. Even if you still had it it would probably be borderline unless you recorded it on decent betamax tape. But if you do still ave it I'd like to convert it to DVD, an exercise I've just completed with some 2nd-generation tapes from 1984.
Paul
From: <roger.mcdaniel@asia.bnpparibas.com>
To: <paul.horne@e-access.com.au>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: Video
I did have the video but I lent it to Ross De La Motte some years ago and haven't seen it since. I presume he would still have it. It wasn't a bad tape. The guys from Brighton set up a mounted camera, hoping to record their Australian club record for successive GF wins - they didn't seem to want it after. I haven't got a recent address for Ross but I know John Davies got in touch with him for the reunion.
By the way, I accidentally rolled up in Brisbane during the Golden Oldies Festival and it was great to be able to catch up with some old (very) playmates, eg Finns, Patersons, Mad Dog, Klynsmiths etc. There is a good chance I will be transferred to Melbourne soon and I will look forward to taking the opportunity for a bit of border hopping to re-aquaint myself with the club.
Hope you find the tape.
All the best
Roger
Subject: Old Old Colls
To: rwaddicor@navis.com
From: roger.mcdaniel@asia.bnpparibas.com
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:42:06 +0700
G'day,
Was just checking out the Old Colls web site to see if 2003 was up and running yet and thought I'd say hello. I have been corresponding a bit with John Davies over the past year but have somewhat lost track with everyone else except the Finns.
Leonie and I have been living in Jakarta for the past 3½ years and are hoping to get back to Oz sometime this year. I was really sorry not to be able to get back for the '82 reunion but hopefully will find the road to Adelaide in the not too distant future. Definitely missing the rugby up here although they have finally given us two Super12 replays per week - unfortunately at about 4pm Thur/Fri so if her indoors doesn't remember the VCR I miss out.
Hope all is going well at the start of the new season and that Colls can go one better than last year.
Please pass my best on to all the guys and to the club for the new season. I was sorry to read about Len Perkins. If Jamie is still around please give him my condolences.
Cheers
Roger
Murray Vogt
Good afternoon Paul,
Congratulations on a wonderful web site. As a long lost member, I was thrilled to see names of people I had forgotten existed.
The awards for 1977 on your web site are slightly in error. The site currently shows: Best Forward Juniors J. Perkins, Best Back Juniors M. Vogt.
While I am sure Jamie Perkins (brother of Ben Perkins) would be thrilled to be considered a forward (and therefore a 'real man'), I am less content with the title of back (having played 20 years as a hooker).
Yours in Rugby,
Muz
Mr Murray Vogt
Desk Officer - Army Logistic Systems
Army Headquarters
R1-4-A092
Telephone: +61 2 6265 5154
Facsimile: +61 2 6265 4041
mailTo:murray.vogt@defence.gov.au
mailTo:mvogt@ballsolutions.com
Chris Eldridge
----- Original Message -----
From: Study Australia
To:paul.horne@e-access.com.au
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: Old Colls
Hi Paul,
Just came across the Old Colls web-site. I was a player between 1993-1996 (mostly 2nds with a bit of 1sts at injury time and 3rds when I'd been eating too many pies and not enough training!!)
Now living in Queensland at 25B Praed St, Red Hill, Qld, 4059. Ph 07 3369 6127.
Thought you might addcontact details to the web-site if useful.
Cheers Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Horne [mailTo:paul.horne@e-access.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, 6 April 2003 11:27 PM
To:ann.wadsworth@study-australia.com
Subject: Re: Old Colls
Yes I will Chris ... but what is your last name?
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Study Australia
To:paul.horne@e-access.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:14 AM
Oops, sorry! Chris Eldridge (also known as 'Honey', since that's what my American girlfriend - now wife - used to scream out at me as I ran onto the field... "Go Honey!")
Cheers,
Chris,
Sean Smith
From: 'smith, Sean" <Sean.Smith@sydney.coudert.com>
To: "'rwaddicor@navis.com'" <rwaddicor@navis.com>
Subject: Long time no see!
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:08:55 +1000
G'day Richard, been a long time, but thought I'd drop you an email as I found your address on the OCs website.
You may or may not remember I had a bad motorbike accident in 1997, which left me with a broken hip, complex fracture of the right femur and other misc. injuries. Doctors at the time told me I'd never run, jump or play rugby again.
Well, this year I finally made my comeback (after years of rehab. and having had the pins removed from my leg/hip/knee a year and half ago), and joined up with the Woollahra Colleagues here in Sydney, and have been enjoying my rugby very much in my new position of Loose-Head Prop (Dad always said it was a matter of time, and err weight, before I became a prop!!).
I've been playing both 5th and 6th grade here (often both on any given Saturday!!) and our 6ths have just won our championship here (which would be my first at club level). We also have 4 other teams in semis this weekend, so the club is doing pretty well.
I often check the SA results to see how the OCs are doing, I certainly remember my years there very fondly.
On another note, Dad is well and looking forward to retirement in the next few years (I flew him up to Sydney last year to see the Wallabies win the third Test against the British Lions, live at Stadium Australia, which he certainly enjoyed a great deal!!). Adam is still travelling through life searching for himself and we all hope he settles down a bit soon!!
Hope you and the family are well, and I wish you guys luck in the finals.
I've included afew pics for your viewing pleasure!
Cheers
Sean Smith
From: 'smith, Sean" <Sean.Smith@sydney.coudert.com>
To: "'Richard Waddicor'" <rwaddicor@navis.com>
Subject: RE: Long time no see!
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:05:20 +1000
Thanks for the update.
I've been in Sydney for about 16 months now I think, Nat and I live a few blocks from each other, and we started at Colleagues together. Nat is actually the 6th's Captain, so he is pretty happy especially as we won the championship. Believe it or not we've actually been TRAINING too, something I don't think I've done since school, and sometimes even TWICE a week!!!!!
None of our front rowers (except myself) are real pretty, and we basically have a front-rower club with our own t-shirts (strictly for props and hookers only!). I'm heading off to the Bali International Tens in October and our team is half props at this stage - so ten-man rolling mauls are looking to be our secret weapon!
I don't think I've ever seen you play anything BUT front row Richard - would explain your good looks too.
;o)
I doubt Natty and I will get down to Adelaide before your season ends, but rest assured if we do ever make a trip down mid-season that we'll come down for a run, show you Adelaide lads how its done over here!!
Great to hear from you, best of luck in the finals...
Yours in rugby,
Bear
aka
Sean Smith
At 12:53 PM 27th March 2003:
G'day Richard,
Just checking to see if you guys are playing on Anzac Day - I'll be in town and possibly interested in a half of footy (depending on how sore I am from our game on Friday!).
Let me know what's happening in that old club of mine.
Cheers
Bear
aka
Sean Smith
From: Richard Waddicor
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:33 PM
To: Smith, Sean
Subject: Re: Ahh, the sweet pains of another footy season...
Sean,
We start April 5; from then on - excepting Easter; since we will be having a genuine 4s this year.
I'm not running it - Jesse is - but I'm sure you'll be able to get a run ...
SARU has finally gone back to having 4 Divs - still don't know where or who we will be playing yet ..
will keep you posted
How's life in Sydney - no doubt treating you well ...
By the way the last email you sent me contained some good natter + jpgs - do you have any objection to me forwarding it to the Old Colls webmaster - you might then find yourself under "where are they now??"
Catch you
Richard
From: 'smith, Sean" <Sean.Smith@sydney.coudert.com>
To: "'Richard Waddicor'" <rwaddicor@navis.com>
Subject: RE: Ahh, the sweet pains of another footy season...
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:42:12 +1100
Good one Richard, please let me know on the games.
As for me, feel free to post whatever you like. The latest news is that since my Best & Fairest last year in 6th grade (NSWSRU 1st Div), I've hit the gym over summer and have spent this year trialling in 3rd grade. Not sure what I'll end up in but probably 3rds/4ths. Much fitter, much stronger, and loving the front row more and more everyday.
I'm not sure if I told you this but I also travelled with the club to the Bali International Tens last October and we very nearly lost our lives in the bombing there - we were all in cabs on the way in to the Sari Club when it blew. We all lost friends and one of our old club-mates who was playing for someone else - I think the tournament lost 30 people in total. There are pics on our website.
I was also going to suggest another idea. I built our clubs website from scratch over the summer and our committee has been discussing a group of links to "friendly" clubs in other states - not affiliates but just clubs we recommend. Gives boys who are travelling interstate an idea on what clubs have the same philosophy & social feel as our own. OCs was of course my choice for Adelaide, so I'm keen to put you boys up. Would your club consider linking to ours in the same way? We haven't got it up yet but the site is growing everyday and it shouldn't be long at all.
Take a look:http://www.colleaguesrugby.com.au
Cheers mate
Bear
From:Dave Munro
To: sarugby1@primus.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:19 PM
Subject: Brock James
Folks
Please pass on to Old Collegians my congratulations on the success of 'sydney University Flyhalf", Brock James. An outstanding young player and a credit to his old club.
Dave Munro
(Formerly Port Adelaide RUFC)
Coach, First XV
St Columbans College, Caboolture, QLD
Andy Ward
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:04:24 +1100 (EST)
From:Andy Ward <andrewmbward@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Kia Ora
To:rnw@ihug.com.au
Hey Rich,
First of all, I'm sorry I haven't done so before now, but please extend my congratulations to the rest of the club for an outstanding year of achievement all round, I couldn't have picked a better club to be a part of.
Please let it be known that if anyone ever intends to visit to New Zealand, I would love to try and make them feel as welcome as I did while at Old Coll's (that and make up for a few of the Sheep jokes...).
Now i'm not sure if you'd be able to help me on this one but would you please be able to share Mark Goodes Email Address with me? And if anyone else would like to contact me then please pass this address on.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, i hope you're all doing well.
Many Thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you again.
Andy
"I am not a shrimp,
I am a KingPRAWN!!!"